having seen many a post regarding sendmail vulnerabilities, perhaps an alternative for sendmail should be considered. how about smail? i have found smail to be simple to configure, easy to debug, as well as both durable and secure. although there are a few particularly noxious security holes, i have patched all (simple fixes) and have yet to happen upon any more. now i am not going to say that smail is 100% secure. nor will i say that smail is necessarily better. site requirements will dictate that. i run sendmail, smail, and (groan) MMDF at miscellaneous sites. rather, i think it is important that admins realize there *is* an alternative. the security holes were posted here some time ago. check the archives for more information. you may obtain smail (latest version is 3.1.29) from: ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/.8/mail/ta/smail/ ftp://convex.convex.com/pub/smail/ ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/src/comm/network/ not looking to start a religious war about MTA's, --robert -- o robert owen thomas: unix consultant. cymro ydw i. user scratching post. o o e-mail: Robert.Thomas@pamd.cig.mot.com --or-- robt@cymru.com o o vox: 708.435.7076 fax: 708.435.7360 o o "When I die, I want to go sleeping, like my grandfather... o o Not screaming, like the passengers in his car." o